Update: Arlington Police Looking Into 'Every Component' of Moran Video
Patrick Moran, son of U.S. Rep. Jim Moran, resigned from father's reelection campaign Wednesday. Police began a criminal investigation of Patrick Moran on Thursday.
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ARLINGTON, Va. -- Following the release of a video this week that shows Democratic U.S. Rep. Jim Moran's son, Patrick, apparently talking about ways to skirt voter identification laws, the Arlington County Police Department has opened a criminal investigation into the matter.
"Every component is under investigation right now," police spokesman Dustin Sternbeck said. "It's very early."
The video, released by conservative activist James O'Keefe — whose methods and productions have been called into question in the past — shows the younger Moran responding to requests for advice on how the unidentified cameraman can "vote for" 100 inactive voters. Patrick Moran, after suggesting the person's energy would be better used in more traditional — and legal — get-out-the-vote efforts, tells the man he'd have to forge documents, such as utility bills, to be successful. He also recommends the man call the voters, perhaps posing as a pollster, to be sure they are not, in fact, planning to vote.
Police and the Commonwealth Attorney's Office have been made aware of the video, which investigators described as depicting Patrick Moran "assisting another to vote illegally," according to a news release.
Police are not planning to take Patrick Moran into custody at this point, Sternbeck told Patch.
"I believe the first step would be to reach out to the individuals who produced the video," he said.
Sternbeck continued: "We're going to assign it to a detective, he's going to reach out to the individuals who produced the video and look at every component. Just as any investigation goes, you're going to have a starting point, involve both parties, come to a determination and hand those results over to the Commonwealth Attorney's Office, and they will decide whether they want to prosecute."
When asked about O'Keefe's credibility, Sternbeck said, "We'll find out, right? It would be irresponsible of us not to investigate. So, we're proceeding."
The video was shot in Arlington's Courthouse community, including inside the Cosi across from the Courthouse Metro and in the nearby Arlington County Democratic Committee headquarters. Mike Lieberman, chairman of the Arlington Democrats, issued a statement Wednesday night saying Patrick Moran has been asked not to return to that office.
Patrick Moran resigned from his father's reelection campaign hours after the video surfaced Wednesday. He released a statement Wednesday night saying he has never endorsed illegal or unethical behavior and that "At no point did I take this person seriously. He struck me as being unstable and joking, and for only that reason did I humor him."
State and federal laws govern elections. Sternbeck said he wasn't sure if local police had reached out to other agencies at this point.
The election is less than two weeks away. But that doesn't mean police necessarily have a deadline, Sternbeck said.
"It's our responsibility is to conduct a thorough investigation," he said.
Theo Stamos, the commonwealth's attorney for Arlington and Falls Church, declined to comment.
"That statement is that all that can be said publicly," Stamos said, citing Thursday's two-sentence news release. "It would be completely inappropriate to comment in any way on an investigation that is ongoing, which this clearly is."
Stamos, a Democratic elected official, would not say the extent her office would be involved in the investigation and any potential prosecution of Patrick Moran.
Last year, Stamos and then-Commonwealth's Attorney Dick Trodden asked a judge to grant a special prosecutor to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest in a case involving a Falls Church political activist whom she had met through a mutual acquaintance.
In a radio interview recorded Thursday on National Public Radio's "All Things Considered," Arlington County Republican Committee Chairman Charles Hokanson called on Jim Moran to resign.
“Speaking as a citizen and voter, every Arlingtonian should be concerned about attempts to destroy the integrity of the democratic process and to steal elections by illegal and unethical behavior,” Hokanson said, according to a news release.
“Reflecting on the broader implications of this potential voter fraud scandal, this really should be the scandal that finally crosses the line, even for Jim Moran, so that he should resign from Congress and leave public office immediately.
“The people of Arlington — Republicans, Democrats and Independents — will not tolerate potential voter fraud, and we demand of all our officials that they preserve the full integrity of our voting process, which has been held to a very high standard in this county. This is not our way. It’s time for Jim Moran to go — by resignation in disgrace, or by voter indignation at the voting booth on November 6.”
Earlier this week, Jim Moran and Reps. Bobby Scott and Gerry Connolly called on the U.S. Department of Justice to conduct a multi-state investigation following an incident in the Shenandoah Valley where a man allegedly threw a stack of voter registration forms in the trash.
Colin Small, a 31-year-old man working for the state Republican Party under contract, now faces 13 felony and misdemeanor counts of voter registration fraud in that case, according to NBC4.
Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is investigating that matter at the request of the State Board of Elections, according to the (Hampton Roads) Daily Press.
Cuccinelli stated in a letter this week that he lacks the authority to investigate elections matters until formally asked to do so by the State Board of Elections, a local commonwealth's attorney, or a local electoral board member, according to NBC4.
A message sent to the State Board of Elections was not immediately returned Thursday afternoon. Messages left with Jim Moran's congressional office and campaign were not immediately returned.
See also:
Moran's Son Resigns From Campaign
Rep. Moran Responds to Son Getting Caught on Video, Criminal Investigation
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Mess
4:21 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
For what? Conspiracy? I really don't see anything in that video amounting to a crime. At no time was he "in" on it. Looked to me like someone (stupidly) trying to be nice to a supporter. And to say that in order to vote for someone else that you would have to forge documents is just the guy kinda pointing out the obvious, right? In order to commit voter fraud, you have to be fraudulent.
Alexis Elizabeth Drob
2:23 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
I have to agree with you on this one. I didn't see anything incrimination on mr. moran's part, however it does seem to me that the camera man was doing his best to set mr. moran up to look like he was doing something wrong. The camera man should be ashamed of himself. To me this is a republican party smear job!!
Baba
6:31 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Alexis Elizabeth Drob,
There you go again, defending criminals and socialists. You are nothing but a freebee seeking gimmedat! Readers deserve to be enlightened:
Created by Alexis Elizabeth Drob on October 20, 2012
TOWANDA, PA
I am trying to get back to Maine and I need to purchase an RV to live in till I can save enough money to but a small piece of land and build a small cottage as my permanent residence. I hate Pennsylvania and want so badly to get out of here. So please help me do this. Anything you can donate will be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Deadmanwalkingby
7:38 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
What are you people....the three blind mice ??? It's quite obvious he's condoning, if not facilitating, election fraud. I guess you dems are willing to do anything to win. What a poor state our nation is in!
Gerald M. Gaynor
7:39 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
"someone (stupidly) tryingto be nice to a supporter." Get real. The only legitimate response would have been to refuse to have anything to do with the scheme.
jane
8:17 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Exactly. The whole thing was just about leading him into saying things. It's not like he pulled an Ann Coulter and actually tried voting in several places or anything. This is O'Keefes' modus operandi, find his target, lead them to say agreeable things to his operatives who usually appear as criminals and insane people, or both, and then post a craftily edited video of it. Why is he not allowed to leave the state? What is he, a criminal or something?
Bob
9:16 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Jane, seems to me that Ann coulter tried to show how easy it was for anyone to commit fraud as has been pointed out numerous times. A politician that happens to be a Democrat is already arrested for that, voting in maryland and florida. almost like the several thousand dead voting for Franken in the last election. Funny how you try to make up stories and ignore facts. typical of you.
Bob
9:50 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
alexis, if you believe that then you are dumber than you appear to be. Typical democrat dishonest hiding reaction. When someone gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar, attack those that got it on film, is that how you react? Shame on you. I have to feel sorry for people like you. It doesn't say much for your credibility at all, nor that of your party. Lying is already an art with the left as seen by wasserman-schultz and cutter. And moran (or moron) is the problem, along with those that are less than honest, people and politicians included.
Sherylynne
10:12 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
You and Alexis are both ridiculous. "Looked to me like someone (stupidly) trying to be nice to a supporter" "I didn't see anything incrimination (incriminating) on mr. moran's part." First of all, if this "good samaritan" was a member of the Republican party, both of you and many others on here, would be trashing and blaming Romney and calling for this man's father to resign immediately. Don't bother denying it. It IS a fact. Next, this young man was not "helping" this person or anyone who approaches for a way to commit voter fraud. Spin it any way you want, but it IS what it is. To teach anyone criminal behavior is NOT helping. It is aiding and abetting.
Bill Jenkins
11:31 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Of course you don't see anything wrong with it,your with the party that promotes dead people voting......
Patriotisland
12:23 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
You "really don't" see a thing wrong with this. Thanks for having such a high level of integrity.
Gail G
4:49 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
Will the police also investigate whether it was James O'Keefe behind the camera, or whether he was in VA at the time of the video? After all, James O'Keefe is on probation and may not leave NJ without court permission.
Lee Hernly
5:02 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
Mr. O'Keefe can leave the state with his probationary officer's approval - not the court's. Considering the amount of hullabaloo over his OWS appearance, I doubt it was him. Probably the same guy who got Eric Holder's ballot in D.C. without identification at the poll.
Baba
6:35 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Gail:
You did not like to see the Moran family enterprise exposed, so you complain about the messenger. Were you an OJ juror?
Gerald M. Gaynor
7:40 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Nice spin, Moran's conduct is what is under scrutiny.
jane
8:19 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Why can't he leave the state? Is he a criminal?
Sherrie
4:53 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
O'Keefe has others working for him. See the LA Times report.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-okeefe-patrick-moran-voter-fraud-20121024,0,1553017.story
Edmund Lewis
5:31 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
"At no point did I take this person seriously. He struck me as being unstable and joking, and for only that reason did I humor him." If this were the case why was this person's behavior not reported to the police, Arlington mental health, and/or election officials? It's like someone walking up and telling you they intend to rob a bank. Even if you thought they were joking or unstable you would make someone aware right? No honest citizen would instruct them on a way to go about robbing the bank, invite them into their office to continue the discussion of robbing the bank, and then state that they "respected" their "initiative." Here you had someone not acting as an honest citizen, but instead as a paid employee of a campaign, discussing ways to commit voter fraud with a person at a Cosi whom he didn't know from Adam. Shift the blame and spin this how you would like but it shouldn't sit well with any Democrats or Republicans and should rightfully be investigated and potentially prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Alexis Elizabeth Drob
2:31 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Then the law should also prosecute the camera man for his part in this fraudulent act which of course is obviously his own intentions of trying to lure mr. moran into something illegal but mr. moran may have already known what the camera man was trying to do and simply played along simply to amuse the guy!!! I am quite sure that mr. moran was aware of the camera because he kept looking toward where the camera may have been located. At least thats what I was seeing as I watched the video in it's entirety!! This whole thing was an attempt to try and catch an innocent person commiting a crime, fortunately I did not see that happening here. Again all those involved in this horrible attempt to smear an innocent person should be ashamed of themselves and decent people should be appalled with these kinds of dirty tactics!!!
Baba
6:29 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Alexis Elizabeth Drob,
There you go again, defending criminals and socialists. You are nothing but a freebee seeking gimmedat! Readers deserve to be enlightened:
Created by Alexis Elizabeth Drob on October 20, 2012
TOWANDA, PA
I am trying to get back to Maine and I need to purchase an RV to live in till I can save enough money to but a small piece of land and build a small cottage as my permanent residence. I hate Pennsylvania and want so badly to get out of here. So please help me do this. Anything you can donate will be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Gerald M. Gaynor
7:41 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Alexis dosen't quite grasp how investigative journalism works...
Patriotisland
12:29 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
No many libs are going to find anything wrong with a little election fraud. ACORN operatives worked pretty much in this same fashion and were exposed. They disbanded or at least changed the name and at this moment are organizing how to get the extra votes they need in many districts. Free and fair election you know.
McBrinn
5:56 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
"It's like someone walking up and telling you they intend to rob a bank. Even if you thought they were joking or unstable you would make someone aware right?"
Umm, no. I've got other things to do than do the cop's work for them.
Edmund Lewis
7:36 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
Pretty shameful statement and really shows what type of person would back a campaign involved in such antics.
Patriotisland
12:33 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
Says alot about you, doesn't it?
McBrinn
7:58 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
Not shameful at all. I'm the son of a Police officer, the nephew of several Police officers, and the grandson of two Police officers (my surname making sense yet?) and every single one of them agrees that burdening LEO with fruitless tips resulting from off-the-cuff statements only detracts from real crime fighting. You obviously know nothing about law enforcement.
But... you're a troll anyway.
Alexis Elizabeth Drob
2:34 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Kudos I applaud you. :)
Baba
6:30 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Alexis Elizabeth Drob,
There you go again, defending criminals and socialists. You are nothing but a freebee seeking gimmedat! Readers deserve to be enlightened:
Created by Alexis Elizabeth Drob on October 20, 2012
TOWANDA, PA
I am trying to get back to Maine and I need to purchase an RV to live in till I can save enough money to but a small piece of land and build a small cottage as my permanent residence. I hate Pennsylvania and want so badly to get out of here. So please help me do this. Anything you can donate will be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Gerald M. Gaynor
9:15 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
I've got as many cops in my family as you lay claim to and after practicing law for thirty years (much of it defending cops in 42 USC 1983 cases) I've learned that cops who make comments about "real" crime as opposed to things they condone often end up with a union rep telling them to shut up before they get into even more trouble...
Patriotisland
12:38 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
Yeah what gives anyone the idea that voter fraud is a real crime.
Edmund Lewis
8:24 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
Real crime fighting! What is this a Batman episode? First you shirk any responsibility as a citizen to prevent or even notify officials of a crime. Then you try to back up your reasoning by listing your LEO lineage. Pathetic. Pat Moran was the field director for the Moran campaign. Like you maybe he would shirk his civic duty while acting solely in the capacity of that of a private citizen. But he wasn't. He made these statements while in the paid capacity as a campaign worker for his father's campaign and was informing an individual how to skirt and break local, state, and federal election laws. One needn't have a long line of LEO heritage to see the problem with that behavior.
McBrinn
11:21 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
"First you shirk any responsibility as a citizen to prevent or even notify officials of a crime."
Now you're suggesting that untrained citizens step into a crime in an attempt to "prevent" it from happening?!
God almighty you're an idiot. That's precisely how bank tellers get killed.
David
11:06 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
This is rich. You are all here trying to rationalize or justify what this dirtbag did, worse than that you are flipping it back at the person who exposed him?
I bet you are all in the same group whose opinion of the Benghazi cover-up is a non-issue, when in fact it may be the biggest thing since Watergate. Our government lies to us about the murder of 4 Americans and its Fox news fault for making a big deal about it.
I am glad I have a dual passport, when this country collapses and becomes another Zimbabwe from the scandals and corruption you will all deserve living in the world you created. I feel like I am living in an Orwell novel. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!
Alexis Elizabeth Drob
2:37 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
You are free to leave anytime you choose. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. Good riddence!!
Baba
6:30 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Alexis Elizabeth Drob,
There you go again, defending criminals and socialists. You are nothing but a freebee seeking gimmedat! Readers deserve to be enlightened:
Created by Alexis Elizabeth Drob on October 20, 2012
TOWANDA, PA
I am trying to get back to Maine and I need to purchase an RV to live in till I can save enough money to but a small piece of land and build a small cottage as my permanent residence. I hate Pennsylvania and want so badly to get out of here. So please help me do this. Anything you can donate will be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
George Krug
9:03 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
I think you should leave NOW. If you think Benghazi was bad what about the Leabanon bombing under Reagan. What about the CIA field officer that was kidnapped and KILLED under Reagan? Were you a 1/2 American citizen then? What about the Republican contractor that thru away hundreds voter registration? Im sure they were onl Democrate party voters. That wasn't on Fox was it? So dont get up on a box and beat your chest and say how bad and enept the President is. As for Moran he was wrong if he intended to help in a illeagel activity. Bopth parties are guilty of voter fraud. Jebb Bush purged the voter rolls before Bush 2 was elected. An independate panel found that thousands of voters were removed from the rolls. The only reason is they had he same name as a convicted felon. This included minister, 80 year olds even police officers. It was uncovered that Gov. Bush was told the program was flawed. He did it anyway then when GW lost they came up with the hanging chad. So recient history shows that both polital parties will do anything for controll. If you don't like this way( I dont) you should move back to were ever your other citizenship is and give up your American citizenship. This is what our politcal system is now and dosent look like its going to get better.
Gerald M. Gaynor
9:19 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
George seems to have anger issues to balance out his impaired reality testing. Aside from his obvious grammatical challenges his support for all things Obama make him minimize the seriousness of lying to the American people in the failed hope that we wouldn’t get the real story about Benghazi before the elections.
A president who tops 16 trillion in debt when he promised to halve it and who has the nerve to lie about what was known and when in Libya is the poster child for “inept.”
Shame on you sir.
Mess
11:16 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
Love it or leave it, David.
ladyrosedeky
11:32 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012
If what Hokason said is correct, then how can anyone vote for Republicans this year?
After all, look at all the shenanigans the Republicans have pulled throughout this country to guarantee Willard Mitt Romney victory in November.
wonda wabbit
12:16 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Isn't this how democrats win elections? Dead people voting, illegals voting, voting multiple times. Lying and cheating is their MO. Just listen to Obozo every time he opens his mouth lies fly out. BTW, isn't this what a "community activist" does?
Alexis Elizabeth Drob
2:40 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Republicans are the real criminals here. They made a public statement right form the beginning of Mr. Obama's first day of his presidency that their number one priority was going to be to make Obama a one term president by not working with him and doing everything they had to do to unseat him. I find the republicans far more criminal than the democrats. Republicans are not known for their honesty when it comes to elections!!!
Baba
6:30 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Alexis Elizabeth Drob,
There you go again, defending criminals and socialists. You are nothing but a freebee seeking gimmedat! Readers deserve to be enlightened:
Created by Alexis Elizabeth Drob on October 20, 2012
TOWANDA, PA
I am trying to get back to Maine and I need to purchase an RV to live in till I can save enough money to but a small piece of land and build a small cottage as my permanent residence. I hate Pennsylvania and want so badly to get out of here. So please help me do this. Anything you can donate will be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Bob
10:00 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
alexis drob, if ignorance was bliss, you would be dancing in the streets. Your unintelligent ramblings, vitreol and constant left wing bloviating is laughable at best, a sign of mental illness at worst. Using the dead to vote has been shown to be a frequent occurence with left wing politicians in chicago. Problem is is that it has been suspected in the past with Morans elections. We don't want it here. Dishonesty and multiple voting is a democratic party problem as shown by the maryland woman (another politician) that voted in both florida and maryland. Your lack of any honesty is obvious as you try to deflect it to the repubs. Funny, but that illness you are suffering from is obvious and telling. Stay in pennsylvania, we don't need a nutcase like you here
dan crabtree
12:50 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
It is a democrat specialty...voter fraud that is....just ask the entire troy new york city coucil. whoops sorry you cant all fired for voter fraud..absentee ballots...
Baba
6:29 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Alexis Elizabeth Drob,
There you go again, defending criminals and socialists. You are nothing but a freebee seeking gimmedat! Readers deserve to be enlightened:
Created by Alexis Elizabeth Drob on October 20, 2012
TOWANDA, PA
I am trying to get back to Maine and I need to purchase an RV to live in till I can save enough money to but a small piece of land and build a small cottage as my permanent residence. I hate Pennsylvania and want so badly to get out of here. So please help me do this. Anything you can donate will be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Amy Fleming
1:08 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
It seemed to me like the guy was just humoring Jason the voter fraud guy. As he talked and looked at the guy with the camera I saw a skeptical look. Bottom line people will see what they want out of this.
In my opinion its not an I got you moment, its more like don't offend the nut. Several times he suggested just work on getting out the vote, that voter fraud is risky. Short of saying I'll bust your ass if you do, what was the political guy suppose to do, insult a potential voter?
Wayne McG
1:23 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Uh..."what you're suggesting is illegal and you could go to jail"...for starters?
Lloyd Adam
1:23 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
As a 30 year experienced LEO, it is the responsibility of all police officials to investigate formal complaints, if for no other reason than to weed out people who are making false complaints to get revenge on ex-paramours, family members, or rival politicians. If you don't, then what happens is the following; the Dispatchers decide to ignore complaints from certain neighborhoods, certain groups, etc, as,you know, they are 'those people who are always complaining, making trouble!" Then someone winds up ripped off, hurt, or dead. Then a cover insures so the Department is not sued for misfeacence, and things spiral out of control. I have forgotten the number of times a tip came in that was ignored, then, three months later, someone stumbles on some on going criminal enterprise. Part of the job IS sometimes wasting you time checking out a bogus tip, because you cannot always tell at the beginning. Also, historically, Lyndon Johnson and Mayor Dayly SR. of Chicago were proven vote box stuffers. There is good documentation that in 1960, they helped JFK get elected. Then we have the Watergate Burglers trying to get dirt on the Dems. Unfortunatley, Politics in general is a very dirty, dishonest business that bears close scutiny, especially by hidden cameras.
Arnold Brown
3:30 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
"Speaking as a citizen and voter, every Arlingtonian should be concerned about attempts to destroy the integrity of the democratic process and to steal elections by illegal and unethical behavior,” Hokanson said, according to a news release."
Such as the way George W Bush was "elected" by the Supreme Court in 2004 due to irregularities that occurred in voting in a state whose Governor was.....his BROTHER! Is that what you mean? Huh? Huh? Hypocrites! Liars. Thieves! Criminals all! Our nation's pride has vanished!
Tina
4:58 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Yes, indeed, fraud and lies come from both parties. But, two wrongs don't make a right. Everyone who is truly hones and has integrity can start by calling these actions for what they are: "intent to commit fraud". If you refuse to call it, then you yourself are just as guilty; you are trying to "cover up" the crime; just like Obama "covered up" the terrorist attack in Benghazi and the "Fast & Furious" debacle!..etc. etc. Let's act like adults and man up, people!!
Nadine F
5:43 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
. . and parents wonder why their kids cheat to get ahead? I see this with adult bullying too. Then they wonder why kids are so brutal to others. It's learned behaviour and condoned by so-called adults through their own actions.
We're already seeing the results of horrific parenting in our youth today. The moral erosion is getting much worse and it's taking the country down faster than 0bama's failed economics.
Tina
6:02 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Nadine....you said so well!...The adults are setting a horrible example by their uncivilized behaviour,insults and bullying against people they disagree with on anything! It's disappointing to see so many people display no moral values or principles and no respect for anything or anyone. The laws are there to be violated at every chance and the goal is to get away with murder if possible!!! We are doomed as a nation if we continue on this path. We have no one to blame, but OURSELVES!!!
Terry
7:08 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
I can't believe voter fraud on this scale is being done by the party I mostly trusted. Time to dump my party affiliation and vote just on my gut feeling of the person running!
The whack partisanship defending has to stop when fraud is pointed out!
pablo suarez
7:12 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Typical of demorats...they love power and do anything to keep sucking the bone.....vote early and vote often
T Ailshire
7:38 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
WOW! He resigned???? So he has NOTHING to do with the campaign, his ideas aren't heard, he has no influence?
Anyone who believes this resignation is anything more than theater is smoking the drapes.
sterlash
7:46 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
"What you are suggesting is illegal and our campaign cannot and will not participate in activity like that" THAT is the 3 second response that Moran should have given and then WALKED AWAY......Instead he actively participated in a 17 minute conversation....his father has served in the House for 21 years, this jackwagon knew EXACTLY what was going on. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
jane
7:52 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Google Nathan Sproul and see who are the biggest operatives in voter fraud. This is why we should welcome election observers from the UN and other impartial sources. The GOtP has already had numerous confirmed cases of fraudulent actions, such as the man throwing registration forms in the dumpster, the voter purge in La Porte County, Indiana, the multi-state fraud perpetrated by Strategic Allied Consulting (an RNC contracted firm), and PA's Turzai admiting on video his plan to hand the election to Romney by voter supression. If the GOtP really wanted to go after voter fraud, they would have included mail-in ballots where the majority of any cases of fraud have occured and which, coincidently, overwhelmingly favors republicans. They did not. And the only ones upset about UN observers are those from the GOtP. Isn't that something!
T Ailshire
8:42 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
UN impartial? And if they were, what'll they do? They've been powerless for years.
And what does the rest have to do with THIS issue? Even "XYZ did it too" does not make an action right. Grow above partisan politics and look at actions.
Gerald M. Gaynor
9:12 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Thanks but no thanks. Anyone claiming that bringing in "observers" from a corrupt organization that has failed to fulfill the most basic components of its mandate is in need of a reality check. Perhaps if you were willing to accept that what is sin for a Republican is sin for a Democrat as well we might take your moral judgments more seriously. A single act of voter fraud or seeming corruption is serious business.
Judith Kenny
8:40 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
This is almost funny because if this had been Romneys kid the outrage would be so great there would be a 1000 posts saying what dirty sob;s the repubs were and are and how they finally nailed them for trying to do something illegal. BUT this is a Democrats kid telling people how to vote illegally lol. See they need that illegal vote so what better way to do this than to have a reporter there with a camera to tell the illegals how to get around having to show an ID OH thats right!!! They don't have to show an ID to vote . The KING has made that clear that it is racist and profiling for illegals to have to show and ID for anything., Just the tazpating morons that have to do that . In CA they are protected and I hink Brown will take a machine on the road with him and pick up all the illegals and have them vote for the socialists..well I hope this kid gets nailed but he is a democrat so I guess OBAMA will just step in and tell them they cannot prosecute him lol That';s the ticket !! Obama will pass a law that saves him.
dw smith
8:54 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
The way this is presented it seems as if the Lad in question may have been the target of a entrapment issue more than anything else. I suppose a citizens arrest may be what he could/should have done. But he quit the campaign. Good decision.
Lee Hernly
10:23 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Mr. Spencer, the author of the piece above, once again shows his bias. Says Mr. O'Keefe's work has been discredited then links to an NPR story on the NPR video where an NPR person was outed. This is all well and good except for the fact that as usual Project Veritas also released the unedited version of the video Mr. Spencer says has been 'discredited'.
Judge for yourself:
http://www.theprojectveritas.com/nprjudge
Arley E Smith
11:08 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
I can't belive some of the comment I have just read!!!!!!!!!!!! This is a good exsample of why this country is in the shape it is in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What has happen to comming sence??????????? Did Pat Moran think this would not show at some point????????? It's like these people sending naked pic. and tex mess. don'i any one every thing like that will come back and bite u in the butt?????????? Please excuse my spelling. I'm not saying what he did was right or wrong but come on people think think think befor u act or hold judgemen
McBrinn
11:22 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Drew can you do something about the troll/spambot "Baba"? Thanks.
Steven E. Schieffer
1:08 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
I could not agree more McBrinn. Baba needs to go home, take its meds, and get some sleep.
Baba
2:46 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
McBrinn:
My exposure of Ms.Drob as an EDP (ask you relatives in law enforcement for the meaning) went over your head. Look at her 2:10 PM post.
Changing gears for a moment...Just who do you think you are trying to silence me? You have a penchant for calling people trolls. Is this a bit of projection?
Baba
2:51 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
Steven E. Schieffer (aka McBrinn's amen corner)
I am well-rested, well-medicated and comfortably at home. Perhaps you should take another bite of your government cheese.
Gerald M. Gaynor
2:57 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
You have a charming, if unverifiable pedigree. Then again, this is the internet where anyone can choose to be anything they want. It’s amazing how many people choose to be idiots. You have no exclusive franchise on the First Amendment and your inability to debunk those who disagree with you does not make them trolls nor make you right...
To those telling others to “Go Home!” who the Hell do you think you are? Debate those you disagree with or choose to ignore them. Such arrogance is indicative of some serious insecurity issues or a mistaken belief that your self-esteem is a real world values that others need to take seriously.
Cathryn S
3:54 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
Have to agree with McBrinn--this is a moderated comment section. I don't see why Baba gets to clog up my Patch page repeating the same off-topic post--talk about EDP
Baba
4:30 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
Cathryn S
Oh, this is YOUR Patch exclusively! Have you actually read the postings of Alexis Elizabeth Drob? Do you understand that I was quoting her online panhandling efforts? http://www.gofundme.com/1dgcak
Apparently, you, McBrinn and Schieffer defend EDPs with whom you agree but seek to silence persons with whom you disagree. Unlike you and your coven, I seek to silence no one, but instead prefer to shine the disinfecting light of truth upon those with whom I disagree!
Gilbert R Albright Jr
11:31 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Another SMEAR JOB by James O'Keefe. So he goes up to a person and asks them how to commit a crime. The person tells them it is illegal but if he wanted to, here's how how to commit the crime.
Then O'Keefe uses the video to INSINUATE the person will committ the crime, or has committed the crime and the person is a criminal WITHOUT any evidence a crime was committed.
Just having knowledge of how to commit voter fraud does not mean one is guilty of doing it. DUH! In order to PREVENT voter fraud one has to know how it is done!
So if I go up to an Off Duty Police Officer and ask him what the best way would be to rob a store, and based on his years of experience, he tells me how it could be done, does that make the Cop a criminal, and mean he probably has robbed a store in the past?
O'Keefe only asks these questions of DEMOCRATS, with the intent to smear them.
He could even better advice on how to commit voter faud from Repulicans since they claim to have evidence of so much of it being committed.
During the court hearing on the PA Voter ID Law, the Republicans did not submit any EVIDENCE of voter fraud to support their case.
Bob Sanders
3:46 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
If what you way is true, which it isn't, then the right after the encounter Moran should have immediately contacted the authorities. He didn't and even though what he did might not rise to the level of being a prosecutable offense his action or lack thereof after the fact show exactly where his heart is! This is why photo I.D. for voting makes sense but since when do liberals worry about that?
jay alexander
11:38 am on Friday, October 26, 2012
Having to forge documents, etc., is not necessary in California - just walk past the conveniently posted roster of voters, select a name (and address) not already crossed out (they have voted), state to the pollworker that your name/address is the one you picked, sign the roster, you will be handed a ballot, fill it out, and it will be placed in the ballot box. Very simple to commit fraud - the pollworkers are forbidden to ask for identification. Then go to the next polling location and repeat this process all day long - in fact put together a team and pretty soon you can truly swing an election!
Steven E. Schieffer
1:11 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
Man, ain't this calling the kettle black?
Go team Obama/Biden
I am a middle class, working, family man, and Vietnam era vet. I approve this message.
Gerald M. Gaynor
2:59 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
I would like Team Obama to go as well; preferably far, far away...
I too am a middle class, working, family man and a Vietnam Era Vet.
Alexis Elizabeth Drob
2:10 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/10/25/mitt-romneys-bff-alleged-serial-rapist-greg-peterson-commits-suicide-while-out-on-bail/
A. Crews
8:49 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012
Hasn't anyone noticed that, since Mitt Romney has run for president suddenly, voter registration integrity has been called into question? None of this crap started happening until Romney decided to go against Mr. Obama?